- Capitalism and Alternatives -


Posted by: Samuel Day Fassbinder ( Citizens for Mustard Greens, USA ) on October 12, 1999 at 16:35:04:

In Reply to: exactly posted by Gee on October 12, 1999 at 13:53:28:

: : SDF: I see. Force is only force if it is certified to exist by a certified libertarian or anarchocapitalist.

: No its defined and absolute. Ohh, thats so annoying - things being defined and absolute - its just so rigid.

SDF: You just said that if I didn't see it that didn't mean that it wasn't there. Defined and absolute, and then you just skip on without providing definitions, philosophical proofs, or nothing? Care to be more specific? Or does gainsaying increase your self-esteem like real thinking never could?

: If force can mean anything, and each meaning is equally valid then there is no point in the word.

SDF: Precisely what I have thought about many of the words you use. Self-interest, force, it's so much idle talk.

: : To quote the immortal Gee:
: :

This is the idiotic belief that if two libertarians agree on something then that agreement somehow invalidates indivualism;

: I'm glad you appear to agree. Or did you imagine this countered my point?

SDF: Now you're playing dumb? To quote the immortal Gee once again, where he persistently fails to do so:

: what is individual about 100 people voting variously on what policy to use and being bound by the majority vote?

I'll tell you what's individual about it -- it's the individual's participation in democracy. The only way that one could believe that such participation invalidates individualism is through the "idiotic" belief that "if two libertarians agree, that somehow invalidates individualism". You may now return to your regularly-scheduled apologetics for dictatorship.

: : ps I looked at the link you provided. The "specifics" of how school is to be taught in Iowa state schools, as they are stated, are so vague that the private school I went to in California can be said to meet them.

: I'm glad yopu realize they are vaige. That means that at any time the state can visit the school and demand change, or can leave it alone - its vaige so as to allow a broad (loose) interpretation.

SDF: So? The owners of a private school can do the exact same thing.

: There are no actual standards - what if schools met them? Then the state would loose its sword of damocles power.

SDF: And this argument doesn't apply to private schools?

(blather deleted)

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