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Posted by: Samuel Day Fassbinder ( Citizens for Mustard Greens, USA ) on October 16, 1999 at 11:42:39:

In Reply to: What about Exxon? posted by Stoller on October 15, 1999 at 17:55:32:

: : That's also why intentional communities are important. Maybe some of those folks see that have something to lose with eco-devastation, and maybe they see that capitalism won't solve their personal problems (like maybe a transaction or two would erase my student loan debt).

: But Sam, raising the enormous amount of money to start a commune (after your loan is squared away!) and then starting one will only, if the members are so inclined, halt eco-devastation there.

SDF: Absolutely correct. But at least eco-devastation will be halted SOMEWHERE.

: How do communes halt Exxon's ravages?

SDF: Well, let's see... maybe the employees at Exxon could quit en masse and form one of their own, using property pilfered from the corporation itself....

: Don't we need to take those badly-managed means of production from them?

SDF: I like the idea, though as you remember, my concern in promoting communies and utopianism was that the current social set-up is unlikely to produce large numbers of people whose existences are threatened by capitalism and who don't believe that more capitalist activity is the answer to their problems.

: Or you you think Exxon will be halted by a boycott or two?

SDF: This is even more of a privilege of the well-off than buying land for a commune. The oil cartels have everyone's number.

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