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OK, fair enough.

Posted by: Septimus ( Aus. ) on October 16, 1999 at 12:04:52:

In Reply to: A federal court HAS upheld it as an individal right. posted by DonS on October 15, 1999 at 13:24:59:

: Don: A federal court HAS upheld it as an individal right. The Emerson case, which the feds just appealed.

*OK, fair enough. But it'll be interesting to see if the judge was right or not.

: Don: Numerious other federal court decisions have held that the right to keep and bear arms is an individal right, including a number of Supreme Court decisions. These have not struck down gun control laws, but they have indeed indicated that gun ownership is an individal right. There has NEVER been a US Supreme Court decision that held the Second is not an individual right.

*Well actually the 1939 ruling on the US v. Miller was a unanimous decision that the second amendment did NOT guarantee an individual right. This was mentioned at the site you referred me to. Come on, keep up.

: Don: Further, the vast majority of Constitutional scholarship agrees that the right to keep and bear arms is an individual right.

*Did you do a survey? I didn't find any evidence to support your statement. It was mentioned that some scholars agree with you and some do not. This is the way it's always been.

A recent example is the opinion of Laurance Tribe, of Harverd.

*So Laurence went to Harvard. Good for him.
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: : Sheesh. You crazy Americans...

: Don: It sure is funny how the violent crime rate down under has gone up after banning all those nasty semi-automatics. Maybe you guys can place some more restrictions on law abiding citizens while increasing your crime rate.

And it sure is funny that violent crime rates in the US have hit a thirty year low while gun laws have never been tougher. You can contemplate this while you wait for another outcast to start popping off his school chums.
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