Day 145 - 29 Jun 95 - Page 29

     
     1        means that 90 per cent of all accidents in the building
     2        industry above a certain level are not reported illegally
     3        or unlawfully.
     4
     5        Presumably, that is an important piece of information when
     6        you are trying to gauge what the situation is in a certain
     7        industry.  Does that apply also -- do the Labour Relations
     8        authorities -----
     9
    10   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do the Labour Relations Board give similar
    11        figures?
    12        A.  No, they do not.
    13
    14   Q.   At the moment I do not see how they can ---
    15        A.  No, they do not.
    16
    17   Q.   -- because someone might be sacked because they intimated
    18        that they wanted to join a union -- nothing to do with
    19        McDonald's ---
    20        A.  Correct.
    21
    22   Q.   -- one person might complain about that or tell the union,
    23        the union might complain; the one would say:  "Well,
    24        I never liked the rotten job anyway" and go and find work
    25        elsewhere?
    26        A.  Theoretically possible, my Lord, but if I may for a
    27        second in the McDonald's context?  If, in fact, a union has
    28        filed a petition they then bring every aspect -----
    29
    30   Q.   Mr. Morris is talking about matters which never see the
    31        light of the day so far as the NLRB are concerned.
    32
    33   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.  You have said that in many cases when there
    34        is a dispute between parties often the allegations of
    35        unfair practices will be dropped in favour of some kind of
    36        settlement.
    37        A.  I did not say that at all.
    38
    39   Q.   You have said -----
    40        A.  What I said to you was that it could be dropped.  I did
         not say "in many cases where it happens it is dropped".  As
    42        a matter of fact, if, in fact, there is merit to an
    43        allegation, then, in fact, the person who made the charge
    44        does not want it dropped, they want it pursued if they feel
    45        there is merit.
    46
    47   Q.   For example, just to give an example, the Canada dispute in
    48        Ontario because of the -----
    49        A.  Sorry, you are confusing me.  The cantor dispute in
    50        Ontario.  I do not know what you mean. 
    51 
    52   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  That is not NLRB. 
    53
    54   MR. MORRIS:  No, I understand that but I just give that an
    55        example.
    56        A.  But I am not even -- there is no "cantor" that I am
    57        aware of associated with -- there is a cantor associated
    58        with a matter in the US.
    59
    60   MR. MORRIS:  No, sorry.