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It is not socialism

Posted by: Marcos ( scientific socialism ) on November 12, 1999 at 11:41:16:

In Reply to: Why is trade union and mass consciousness contradictory? posted by Lark on November 10, 1999 at 14:31:40:

: I think your using liberal as a definition of "watery moderate", someone who doesnt try to fight from fixed positions, that's a bit inaccurate, and a bit unfair to liberals, the opposition to your ultra disciplined, duty and order bound socialism is libertarian and individualistic but definitely not overly pragmatic or in retreat.

It is flawed comrade - I think you are recognising this now? No?

: I've often wondered about defining myself as a soldier in a political cause, it may in one context mean a readiness to sacrifice myself for the cause

Do not think only of 'my' or 'you' or 'i' for in our socialist future the word we wil look to is 'ours'.

: I think it is more correct to say that communism correctly understood is to destroy power because what is power by the manifestation of inequality and status?

Not revolutionary power over the capitalist!

: Why is trade union and mass consciousness contradictory? Trade Unions are the one organisation that actual workers are more likely to have contact with and work with and use in struggles in the workplace, whereas a party is completely different.

Because a trade union seeks advanatge for only the small group - not the total proletariat. Capitalists can compete for trade union workers to exploit - and the union agrees!! What is this if not traitorous to the proletariat as a whole!

: I hope so, Cheers Comrade, are you the one who posted in favour of gun ownership?

Indeed not - for what use is a gun to a mere individual member of our socialist future - what advantage does the gunman seek over his equals.


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