: Any ruler who rules in the name of justice and freedom, but who oppresses people, is a scoundrel, regardless of the political label they wear (or you slap on them).
High five MDG, looks like it's me and you against the sects and would be despots, well we'll just oppose oppression and violence regardless of the author or the victim (including the wee fuzzies) and see if the actual oppressed, instead of some dream proletariat, thank us, the trots wont but then they've got so much influence anyway dont they.
: I guess you're talking about me with that "some inequality" remark. When did I ever advocate that? Anyway, I've got news for you: as Lark pointed out in another post, you'll never get rid of all inequality. You'll never have perfection. From one wage slave to another, you'd better face the facts that human existence will be wrought with inequality and brutality and all those other things people deplore. The best we can do is minimize, as much as possible, the bad.
Er, I think it was me that made that some inequality remark and it's got twisted and applied to everyone who isnt in the church of Stroller, complete equality of income isnt my dream it's someone else's nightmare. I wasnt arguing that we'll have to accept the inequality though, I'm egalitarian so a suspiscion should be exercised on all inequality but some of it's legit. The inequality there is though is the sort of intellectual inequality there'd have been between me and Einstein or talent inequality between me and Bethoveen, uniqueness is inequality somepeople should deal with it.
: Hate away, but don't forget your antacids.
Socialism that needs hatred wouldnt be something I'd like to subscribe to.
: : Please debate instead of running away with your tail between your legs.
: Umm...Lark and I are both still here, Chuck.
Yeah, I think he means 'I agree', 'I agree entirely', 'please can I kiss your ass Mr. Stroller' by debate, what do you think?