: Well something I've realised myself is how some people appear to be the undeclared "leaders" of either faction (broadly speaking) and Gee is the Capitalist "leader" and RD the socialist one.
I make no claims beyond the platform of my own party, I argue against *anyone* with whom I disagree on an equal basis, and I argue according to logic.
: It's mainly to do with the ability to posts millions of messages and being very well read in the areas of their choice, as though they are doing philosophy degrees and masters in political science.
: I didnt used to care but then some people started to use their unofficial recognition to try and put the markers down for what socialism/Libertarianism etc. really is and therefore did nothing for the debate other than blacken their opponents names, with the easily impressed hoardes of slavish followers.
Ah, are you referring to me and our wee debates elseplace- no, I put down no such markers, man, I merely pointed out that your position was inconsistant with a libertarrian point of view, with the general tenor of what you yourself espoused- the fact that you took umbrage, and viewed it as me 'trying to make you look bad', given I did no such thing, other than disagreeing with you, that you yourself are at some level aware of this contradiction. What disturbed me most was that you were more willing to abandon calling yourself libertarian purely because you have a 'disgust' for homosexuality, and couldn't logically justify it.
I have a case to argue, and I will argue it with anyone whereever they disagree with me, I don't engage in ad hominems, appeals to authority, or painting people as a bad guy or 'un-socialist'. Some i know would attack my ultra rationalist stance, however, I defend it...