- Capitalism and Alternatives -

I'm tiring...

Posted by: Samuel Day Fassbinder ( Citizens for Mustard Greens, USA ) on May 16, 1999 at 18:58:18:

In Reply to: even more responses to even more nonsenses posted by Gee on May 14, 1999 at 23:47:47:

: : You haven't even bothered to think ten years into the future.

: You appear unable to consider anything other than today, a surprisingly static view of the world as facing unchanging issues, and of mankind as unable to adapt to change despite having done so since time immemorial.

SDF: Look at the links I've provided above. Your assumption that people adapt to change "since time immemorial" will be taken as a sign that you have not, and will not, consider as a possibility that the possible fate of humankind could turn out to be like the fate of Easter Island I've posted this link before at least once. I'm sure the Easter Islanders had lots of Gees who assumed blandly that people would adapt because humankind has adapted since time immemorial, and if the readers of this post go back and look at Ponting's book (i.e. if anyone beside Gee is reading this post) they will find out about lots of other civilizations that collapsed due to ecological limits, Easter Island is just the most dramatic example.

I'd like to ask the onlookers a post, since Gee is an incredibly unresponsive audience in this regard. Are we to concentrate on adaptation to the future, or shall we build more Easter Island statues?

: : My values are the result of having thought of another option for human society, that most people haven't ever been offered. Communes are a substitute for a better society, a substitute that can be arrived-at by the well-off in the face of capitalist denial of the other alternatives.

: First, you personally may achieve your personal goals - you cannot validly have 'options' for other peoples lives - its for them to lead. You can live in a commune today. Do you?

SDF: No. Are you offering to buy land and tools for me and my destitute friends, so we can indeed have a commune? Or are we still merely engaged in dreary competition for the same jobs in the global job market?

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