- Capitalism and Alternatives -


Posted by: Red Deathy ( Socialist Party, Uk ) on May 25, 1999 at 17:06:17:

In Reply to: Plenty for everyone. posted by borg on May 25, 1999 at 14:20:37:

: I know quite a number of radical individualist atheists.

I was talking about the Pilgrims...they were filthy protestant types ;)

: I would rephrase by saying the free market is necessary to
: create the conditions to make socialism possible. State capitalism
: will not make it happen. Too many inhibitions on production
: in that system.

Indeed, however, we have already had teh free market, state capitalism is the result of the stangancy that results from the free market hitting its limits- the forces of production are *allready* sufficiently developed for us to build socialism.

: Unhampered production is the *only* thing that will bring
: prices to at or near zero. The open market is the only
: non-system that will make it happen. It's a pre-requisite.

But that would never happen. Eventually the law of no-profit not production comes round and bites you on the arse- scracity is artifically maintained to protect the market system.

This is teh socialist case, that there is a limit on capitalism, it can only go so far, it won't 'evolve' further, it will only achieve true abundance through a revolutionary break...

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