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Posted by: Gee ( si ) on October 11, 1999 at 17:29:16:

In Reply to: No, just exposing the phoniness of the 'debate' posted by Samuel Day Fassbinder on October 11, 1999 at 16:15:40:

: SDF: Wrong. Barry Stoller's word is not law. If somebody says "all children go to school because it's the law," and I am a child, and I don't go to school, then I am the exception that defeats the rule.

You did notice the word 'error' wrapped in inverted commas to indicate this? I also imagine that you do appreciate the limitations of anecdotal evidence, however useful as an insight - if you dont see any force that doesnt mean it is absent.

: SDF: Wrong. The state is simply a group of individuals. This simply repeats the idiotic libertarian belief that once an individual becomes part of "the state" he or she loses his or her capacity to perform "individual thinking."

what is individual about 100 people voting variously on what policy to use and being bound by the majority vote? What of the people who wanted something other than what the 'group' appeared to 'decide'.

Strange how some people actually think that if a group of people arrived at a 'decision' then it must be, by definition, to everyones staisfaction - that there can be no room for someone to be downtrodded.

: SDF: Wrong. Here is a list of government influencers, and they're private servants, serving no one but themselves.

That is a list. And it proves that state employees dont have more effective leverage on public policy than non state employees? Or are you showing exceptions again.

: SDF: Sorry, welfare in the US has been steadily shrinking since 1980. Must be "self-interest" that causes that.

The programmes are plentiful and the careers as shiny as ever. When Clinton said 'the era of big government is over' he meant... well he just lied as usual.

: SDF: Care to discuss "actuality"? Or don't you have any statistics, ethnographic studies, or any HARD EVIDENCE for that?

Take this link, just one of many to be found in state education boards and certainly reflecting that state seeks to control what is taught and how, even in ostensibly provate schools

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