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No it's not

Posted by: Stoller on November 03, 1999 at 14:38:18:

In Reply to: class is an arbitrary construct posted by David on November 03, 1999 at 13:07:15:

: I disagree, class is an arbitrary construct, it is simply a way to group together similar components.
Please see this post then this post.

: One example I can think of pertaining to class interests would relate to a farmer in the 4th century B.C. who keeps having his crops ransacked by nasty barbarians.
But if the 'barbarian' is in fact the LANDLORD, then ransacking the crops is LEGAL. See, the specific mode of production WILL determine the rights of the farmer...
: Yes, and that standard is life.
Very vague...
: The standard applies to every class. A proletariat cannot survive if he is robbed every day...
I would argue that the proletariat IS robbed every (working) day...

: Modes of production may change it, like I pointed out with intellectual property, but the basis remains the same. Life.
Vague.

Follow Ups:

When life is your standard of values, then every action that perpetuates it is considered moral. David USA November 04 1999 (10)
- I know the bit... Stoller November 05 1999 (9)
  - ...and typed too fast (slight correction) Stoller November 07 1999 (0)
  - Ayn Rand advocated people getting what they deserved. David USA November 07 1999 (7)
    - WHICH people? Stoller November 08 1999 (6)
      - Further Interogative Pronouns David USA November 09 1999 (5)
        
        And getting what we deserve Stoller November 09 1999 (4)
        
        North America was not one big love commune, far from it. David USA November 10 1999 (3)
        
        That has nothing to do with it Stoller November 10 1999 (2)
        
        I agree with you that the children do not deserve any of it. David USA November 11 1999 (1)
        
        Then we're making some progress here Stoller November 11 1999 (0)