- McJobs and Workers -

Pseudo intellectuals - drop your guard, just for a minute.

Posted by: The Trolley Dollies ( Northern Ireland ) on July 27, 1998 at 10:17:25:

In Reply to: Lambasting Lumbagoes of Orange and Green Tangeloes posted by Quincunx on July 22, 1998 at 09:32:31:


: Qx: Uh oh...you really bit off a bit too much. Welcome to reality. The world is bigger than Northern Ireland

You've lost the plot when you come off with crap like that ! And we don't need YOU to welcome us to reality, thankyou very much. Maybe we should be offering YOU the invitation...

: and Jason and I have organizing to do.

Look, if you really find us SO tiresome, fine. It's just, well, we don't agree the way you go about things. If you don't want to talk about it, we'll leave you alone to get on with life on planet IWW.

After all, it's a much better thing to fight for workplace democracy than to engage in rampant excursions into ethical subjectivism. Which is what you're doing.

What you mean is, you want to butt out here because you can't be bothered to discuss with workers who have an opinion that doesn't match yours.

It kind of throws a spanner in the works doesn't it - us wage slaves daring to think in a way that doesn't agree with you. Surely ALL workers are oppressed - therefore we should all feel and react in the same way ? Well you all react the same way - that our situation has contributed to our ignorance, and we should therefore be patronised for being so gulliblel. And then you create an "ism" to sum up the situation and try to reinforce your intellectual superiority.

You know, right the way through this site, we have never seen any kind of respect from you lot at IWW for the ideas, opinions and experiences of people who don't fall into your neat black and white ideologies. If you got on a level with people, instead of adopting the ivory tower mentality all the time, you might not alienate so many of us, and be more successful in your aims. All the flowery language and high minded concepts are not going to endear you to Joe Bloggs on the shop floor. Your organisation is being crushed under the weight of 93 years of political dogma. You should be valuing the opinion of others and using it to alter and improve your approach to changing the situation of workers. There is more than one way to skin a cat, and although the class struggle is, in theory, the same the world over, peoples experiences of it are not.

If you rather we didn't express an opinion, that's OK. Just think about what that means.

If all you want us to do is admit defeat and crown you the intellectual heavyweight then sorry - we're not going to. We stand by OUR opinions, just like you do, and because you don't agree with us doesn't make our opinions any less worthy.

If you're not too busy to get back to us by the next millenium, we'd love to hear from you.



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