- McJobs and Workers -

no other recourse

Posted by: BKBandit ( Burger King, SpartenBurg, SC USA ) on October 11, 1998 at 14:25:00:

In Reply to: Some of you seem to love the delusional mindset though posted by Quincunx on October 09, 1998 at 19:51:07:

Lets start with the message subject:

To say one enjoys their job, be it Fast Food service, or Testing Video Games, I have a hard time believing to be a delusion. However, if it is, I'd have to say it's a pretty healthy one. There are plenty of people who despise their jobs, and live miserable lives because of it. Now, if we're to be responsible, and work because that is the way of life, I don't see a problem with even making ourselves believe we enjoy it. These are the things that make life livable.

And what of those who simply become accustomed to their job and surroundings? For them, it is more desirable to stay where they are then change. And if the current situation is in no way unsatisfying? Why change?

: J: Qx im wondering if you even have a job...probably not.

: Qx: You're assuming again so I'm not really surprised that you want to get into my personal affairs also.

First of all, she was not assuming, she was wondering.. Assumptions can coincide with opinion, and as such a big fan of "Free Speech" as you claim to be, I would think opinions would be welcome. As for your personal life, the only question asked was Do you have a job? Which is relevant to your motives, and therefore relevant to your point.

: J: If you did have a job you would stop harranguing McDWorker for enjoying his job.

: Qx: You're assuming some more and this time not verty critically at that. I'm very much in doubt of his sincerity. Especially when he gets more hysterical with each new posting.

This is the first actual point I have seen you make besides simply flaming people. But I submit it would have been less destructive to simply make that point without the derrogitory comments.

: J: Not all of us are depressed miserable people who hate to work.

: Qx: Some actually like the delusional and insidious notion that management and workers have common interests.

Now, we have a debate. I happen to be a worker who has common interests as the management. This is not delusional, or engratiating myself to my superiors. This is me knowing how and why the world works. It is therefore concevable for me to accept what management does, and their goals, since I know why.

: J: If you ask many of my employees they will say that they like their job. A few others will admit they don't like the job but they do good work and come in to work everyday cause they need the money.

: Qx: And maybe some of them might just want to organize a union right where you work.

I will agree that there will always be the "unsatisfied population". But this is due to the diversity of man, not through some error or fault of the company. No one can please everyone. That is a fact of life.

: J: Maybe you should take yourself on out to the real world and try to get a clue.

: Qx: Third assumption in one posting. Your postings are getting consistent at erroneous evaluations of others if you think (without knowing those persons) others don't live in the real world. Not to mention glibly obtuse.

You have to admit you gave her no other recourse. It is not conceavable for a person to hold your opinions, without giving reason why, and expect us to believe that you are experienced in the ways of life. Any reasonable person, (In my humble opinion of course) can see the reasons behind our submissions. So now I ask the reasons behind yours.

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