Day 021 - 29 Jul 94 - Page 29

     
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         MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Once a day, was the answer.
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         MS. STEEL:   I thought you just said it was not wise to eat it
     3        once a day?
              A.  I do not recall.
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         Q.   You do not remember?
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         MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, unfortunately we do not have the
     6        screens.  My recollection is he said, as he has so often
              before, "It depends what else you eat".  The more high fat
     7        meals you have, the more careful you have to be.
              A.  With all due respect, my Lord, you did push me into a
     8        corner.  We have to be careful.  It depends on what we
              mean by "a high fat meal".  Believe you me, there are big
     9        differences in high fat meals.  You could have one that
              is, 40 per cent of calories is fat; you could have one
    10        that is 60 per cent of calories as fat.  So I think you
              have to accept that, ultimately, there have to be some
         reservations.
 
    12   MS. STEEL:   Just going on, in that case, about sugar on the
              next page.  This has come up a couple of times about the
    13        role of sugar in the diet.  It says here in the second
              column:  "Except during strenuous exercise, sugar is no
    14        better for giving energy than the same amount of calories
              from other food".  So if you are in need of energy, it is
    15        quite possible to eat other more healthy foods and get the
              energy you are after?
    16        A.  Well, it is possible to eat other foods, yes.
 
    17   Q.   From a health point of view, it would be a good idea to
              eat other foods rather than sugar, which is, as you have
    18        agreed, basically sort of empty calories?
              A.  Yes.
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         MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Is the following page trying to reduce
    20        things to absolute simplicity good advice, the 8
              guidelines?
         A.  Yes, I think that sums it up pretty well.
 
    22   MS. STEEL:   In your third statement, or it might be your
              second statement according to what files we are in.
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         MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Can we put that away now, or do you want to
    24        come back to it?
 
    25   MS. STEEL:   No, that is all right.
  
    26   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Is it a different statement to the one you 
              have been referring to about the committees? 
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         MS. STEEL:   I think so.  I cannot remember which statement
    28        that was.  It is page 87 in my bundle I am on now.
 
    29   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  That is tab 6.
 
    30   MS. STEEL:  You said that there is no dispute that many of
              McDonald's products are relatively high in fat and