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     2        Here I can guarantee the court that I would have either
     3        written, I do not recall, or reviewed a draft from my
     4        counterpart, in all likelihood Mr. Sheldon in California,
     5        which we then set up the channels to our Attorneys General
     6        who would have reviewed and possibly made changes in it
     7        before they signed them.  I do not believe in this
     8        instance that either the Attorneys General actually did
     9        the initial drafting, but who did the drafting is as
    10        irrelevant to us as who did the typing.  The question is
    11        on whose behalf is it being sent out.
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    13        We wanted the companies here to have a clear message that
    14        this was not just some low level rumblings within the
    15        Attorneys General offices and, therefore, asked that our
    16        Attorneys General signed off on the letters.  In terms of
    17        enforceability or notice, or anything like that, to the
    18        companies, it did not matter a whip whether it came from
    19        me signing on behalf of the two states or from the two
    20        Attorneys General.
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    22        In this instance we wanted to send a strong message to the
    23        companies that this was an effort that was of interest to
    24        both states and, therefore, asked that our Attorneys
    25        General be the authors of the letter.
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    27        Ms. Steel, if you had asked me a question -- I do not
    28        recall what it was, so I cannot answer!
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    30   MS. STEEL:   I am trying to remember what it was.  Yes, in the
    31        June 3rd letter it mentions about the ten states who had
    32        given Texas and California the authority to speak for them
    33        on this issue.   Do you know how that came about?
    34        A.  Yes.  During the meetings that we held or conceivably
    35        in telephone conversations after the meetings we held in
    36        Los Angeles, one or more companies -- I cannot recall who;
    37        it might have been McDonald's and it might well not have
    38        been McDonald's -- knowing of the fact that there were
    39        other states that took an enforcement interest in consumer
    40        protection matters on a national scale as well as
    41        specifically nutritional matters, said, in essence:
    42         "Well, if we resolve this matter with you all, what we
    43        are going to need to fear is that one of the other states
    44        is going to come in and second guess what you all have
    45        done and demand specifically labelling on the packaging
    46        itself".
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    48        We advised them that we could not speak for, at that time,
    49        the other states, but agreed to go visit informally with
    50        other states with whom we worked on an ongoing basis in 
    51        contact, and asked those Attorneys General whether they 
    52        could give us the permission to informally sign off on 
    53        this resolution on their behalf.  We did that.  We spoke
    54        with the states and got permission to say what we did in
    55        the letter.  In fact, this resolution did end the matter.
    56        There were no actions by any other Attorneys General
    57        subsequent to the resolution of the booklets.
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    59   MR. MORRIS:  Can I ask you to make one point about June 3rd
    60        letter 1986?  To save time, I will not read it all out,

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