Day 080 - 30 Jan 95 - Page 45

     
     1   Q.   When did they stop?
     2        A.  Last year.
     3
     4   Q.   Last year.  How long had they been supplying?
     5        A.  Just a moment -- they stopped killing last year.  They
     6        still have a boning room there and they still take some
     7        boneless flanks from them.  Blisworth, not Wellingborough,
     8        ADP Blisworth.
     9
    10   Q.   Is it a different company or is it ---
    11        A.  No, it is the same place ---
    12
    13   Q.   -- the head office?
    14        A.  -- but I am sure you mean Blisworth.
    15
    16   Q.   How long had they been supplying you?
    17        A.  Five or six years.
    18
    19   Q.   They were using the captive bolt pistol?
    20        A.  Yes.
    21
    22   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Can you just help me if you know through your
    23        farming background when it became illegal, if such it did,
    24        in this country for a farmer to kill his own stock apart
    25        from slaughter for food?
    26        A.  He can still kill his own stock, sir, for medical
    27        reasons.
    28
    29   Q.   I understand that but ----
    30        A.  I know -- I could not tell you when it became for human
    31        consumption, for public consumption.  I think he can still
    32        kill for his own consumption.  No, I cannot give you that
    33        date, sir.
    34
    35   Q.   Do you know even whether that is so?  You think he can
    36        still kill for his own consumption?
    37        A.  I think he can, sir.
    38
    39   Q.   Not a chicken every now and again?
    40        A.  I am not sure on that, sir.
    41
    42   Q.   But a steer or -----
    43        A.  I do not think any farmer anyway would try to kill a
    44        steer for his own consumption.
    45
    46   MS. STEEL:   The companies that supply you with pigs, is one of
    47        those FMC of Winbourne or Salisbury?
    48        A.  No.
    49
    50   Q.   It is not?  Can I have a couple of minutes? 
    51 
    52   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  We will keep going this afternoon but 
    53        if you need a moment just sit down and prepare yourself.
    54        I will not actually leave court.
    55
    56   MR. MORRIS:  The volume of the Scunthorpe plant as compared to
    57        the McKey's Milton Keynes plant in terms of beef and
    58        patties -- is it comparable or is the Milton Keyne's plant
    59        the biggest?
    60        A.  The Milton Keynes plant is the biggest.