Day 145 - 29 Jun 95 - Page 19

     
     1        arguments which we are going to have next week.  If you get
     2        leave to amend, you can adduce any evidence you have of the
     3        matter.
     4
     5        We will take our five-minute break.
     6
     7                       (Short Adjournment)
     8
     9   MR. MORRIS:  In our pleadings on page 3, the employment section,
    10        it says:  "McDonald's is known to have broken the law
    11        relating to the employment of young people, including
    12        committing criminal offences under the Shops Act 1950.
    13        McDonald's is not restricted to the UK.  In the USA
    14        McDonald's have broken the law relating to the employment
    15        of young people".
    16
    17   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Pause a moment.  Were further and better
    18        particulars asked for that?
    19
    20   MR. RAMPTON:  Yes, my Lord, they were.
    21
    22   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  If so, what did you give?
    23
    24   MR. RAMPTON:  The answer to the request -- I am afraid I have
    25        not the request here but I can look it up in the pleadings
    26        bundle -- is, I think, at page 14.  That, at any rate, is
    27        the end consequence of the request or requests because, as
    28        your Lordship would expect, a bald general statement like
    29        that is not allowed to remain as it stood.
    30
    31   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What might be the answer appears to start at
    32        the top of page 13 and continues to 16 when we appear to
    33        move on to alleged hostility to trade unions which is the
    34        next matter on page 3 of the Abstract.
    35
    36   MR. MORRIS:  Then when we questioned Mr. Stein about the Micale
    37        management McDonald's stores of their child labour
    38        violations, he said it was an isolated incident.  This was
    39        on day 139, page 48.
    40
    MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, I remember that.  I want to ask you for
    42        the details of what you want to put and we will now go into
    43        chambers so that you can perfectly openly say what it is.
    44
    45   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, I can tell your Lordship that that -----
    46
    47   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  We will deal with it in chambers, so I will
    48        have to ask everyone in the last two rows to leave court,
    49        please, because only people connected with the case. The
    50        court will probably open again in about five or 10 minutes 
    51        time. 
    52 
    53           (For proceedings in chambers see separate transcript
    54                and further separate transcript for Ruling)
    55
    56                (Proceedings in open court, continued)
    57
    58   MR. MORRIS:  Is it true that executives of the McDonald's
    59        Corporation in June 1990 testified in front of the House
    60        Government Operations Subcommittee, chaired by Republican