Day 145 - 29 Jun 95 - Page 27

     
     1   MS. STEEL:  I have one copy here but that is the only copy we
     2        have, so .....
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     4   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Is it on both sides, Ms. Steel?
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     6   MS. STEEL:  No, it is just one side.
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     8   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Make half a dozen copies, please, Mr. Riley.
     9        Yes?
    10
    11   MR. MORRIS (To the witness):  The National Labour Relations
    12        Board you worked for?
    13        A.  Yes.
    14
    15   Q.   They deal with infringements of labour regulations, do they
    16        not ---
    17        A.  Yes, they do.
    18
    19   Q.   -- and labour laws?  Have they done investigations or
    20        surveys on the percentage of labour regulations or
         violations of labour regulations, or Labour Relations
    22        regulations, indicating the kind of percentage of
    23        violations or unfair labour practices, or whatever, that
    24        come to their attention?  You know what I am saying?
    25        A.  Yes, they usually do like an annual report that sets
    26        out how many cases they had, which ones of them had merit,
    27        if you will, how many complaints they filed, those kinds of
    28        things.
    29
    30   Q.   Yes, have they ever produced some kind of statistics or
    31        estimation of the percentage of violations which they think
    32        are actually reaching their attention?
    33        A.  Yes.  I think I have seen some.
    34
    35   Q.   What percentage of all the violations that are actually
    36        occurring do they think they actually get to ---
    37        A.  Boy!  This is going -----
    38
    39   Q.   -- become a formal complaint?
    40        A.  I have not looked back to those kinds of surveys,
         frankly, since I worked for the agency.  I would say that
    42         -- boy -- this is a rough guess, but just to move things
    43        along, probably 50 to 60 per cent.
    44
    45   Q.   The National Labour Relations Board in America gets to hear
    46        about 50 per cent, something around there, about half, of
    47        all the actual violations by employers of Labour Relations
    48        codes?
    49        A.  See, you are dealing with technical terms right now.
    50        The actual Board in Washington -- you have got different 
    51        levels of adjudication all the way through this agency.  If 
    52        you are talking about the Board, you are dealing with words 
    53        of art, but you are using them in a very general sense.
    54
    55   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I think what you are being asked is, every so
    56        often someone is convicted of, for instance, a violation of
    57        child labour laws?
    58        A.  Correct.  The NLRB would not be child labour, my Lord.
    59
    60   MR. MORRIS:  These are Labour Relations.