Day 249 - 14 May 96 - Page 31
1 Q. How long were you outside for?
2 A. Ten minutes.
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4 Q. When you say I was standing there, where was I standing?
5 A. Just outside of the Head Office.
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7 Q. Yes. Where outside?
8 A. Outside the door, more or less where the people were
9 gathered in the photographs we looked for the 1989 one.
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11 Q. If you point to a photograph, any one of those 1989
12 photographs, and just tell me where it was exactly that I
13 was standing. In tab 5, No. 2 is probably as good a one as
14 any to look at.
15 A. Yes. Towards the bottom of the stairs there.
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17 Q. Where roughly I am standing in that photograph; are you
18 looking at the 1989 photographs?
19 A. Yes.
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21 MR. MORRIS: Photograph No. 2?
22 A. Yes. No. As far as I can remember, south of where
23 that group is by the tree, nearer the kerb.
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25 MR. JUSTICE BELL: The road runs north as it goes away from the
26 camera and south behind the camera does it?
27 A. Yes, it does, my Lord.
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29 MS. STEEL: Near the pantomime axe?
30 A. No, on the pavement.
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32 Q. Yes, but near the pantomime axe; is that what you are
33 saying?
34 A. Yes.
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36 Q. You came out to see the videoing. Were they videoing while
37 you were out there?
38 A. Yes. Graham Laurie was.
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40 Q. What was Mr. Gravett doing while you were out there?
41 A. The only time I really noticed him he was just standing
42 with a group of the demonstrators, he was not really doing
43 anything.
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45 Q. Where?
46 A. At the bottom of the stairs.
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48 Q. What, similar to where I was standing or somewhere else?
49 A. Not at the same time. I saw him when you were sitting
50 down writing, doing, your amendments.
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52 Q. This was when you were inside?
53 A. Yes.
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55 Q. What about when you were outside?
56 A. I cannot remember, not the summer at all.
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58 Q. So for all you knew he could have been handing out copies
59 of the fact sheet complained of in this action?
60 A. Could have been.
