: : So the bourgeoisie is imaginary now? What a liberal load of crap! And don't call me Jesus.
: Right, I'll spell this out for you, I have to talk slowly? OK, the People who vote for the capitalists work on production lines, the workingclass are the greatest force for conservatism in the world at present, there is no proletariat that I can see, no highly intelligent class of people prevented from accumulating wealth through bitter class division.
So now the proletariat doesn't exist? This is getting funnier by the minute!
: Do you know any 'Bourgousie'? Do they live in your street?
What does this have to do with their existence as a social class?
: The real and only true division is between Socialists/liberal/anarchists/communists/environmentalists/etc. and all that oppose them.
: : Liberal gibberish. Haven't you noticed that the bourgeoisie rules in the name of "justice", "freedom", "the people" etc.? Open your mind.
: What's wrong with liberalism? Liberal is a label I could where with pride, the first liberals, as I've indicated elsewhere, where bastions of humanism, the classless society and individual freedom. What you mean is traitorous, that's fine, I correspond with prisoners in Zaire, Nigeria, Cuba etc. I'll let them no that the 'liberal' freedoms that allow you the freedom to say that are all nonsense and they must be in prison by mistake or something.
'Liberalism' goes hand in hand with capitalism, that is what is wrong with it. Is your liberal badge real shiny?
: : Very stupid. If you want to rub shoulders with phony socialists, go right ahead. Me and my workmates will go on hating the bourgeoisie.
: So they are all trotskyists then? Stop being so childish with your definitions of Socialist, do you really think it's going to worry me or the other thinker-doers if a bunch of kindergarden-juveniles who've read a trot book once call us phonies grow up would you.
Ah, the good old liberal daddy lecture still going strong I see. And liberals wonder why we think they are petit-bourgeois snobs.
: : Please debate instead of running away with your tail between your legs.
: Oh right, I did that when? Perhaps your falling back on I'm strong your not rhetoric and childish nonsense to enarmour your positions of unthought or lessthought against good points.
Calling people names without good reason is 'hauling ass' in my book
: : I rather enjoy watching Barry make you and the other phony socialists on this board squirm.
: And that's happened when? Your obviously squirming like a slug in salt if you've choosen to throw mud and insults than debate. So I'm a phony Socialist? Hmmm, that's not what the capitalists think, that's not what I think, so I guess it simply doesnt matter what you think child, some day you mightn't be as impressed by lists of books and blueprints for well planned unfreedom, give us a call then.
Who is "us"? You and your reformist buddies? I'll call collect!