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waiting can be no answer!

Posted by: Marcos ( Scientific Socialism ) on June 29, 1999 at 01:51:38:

In Reply to: Speaking... posted by Red Deathy on June 28, 1999 at 17:11:14:

: Speaking as someone who holds a similar opinion as SDF, and as a member of an organisation that has opposed Leninism and Leninists for all of, oh, 82 years at least (and thus does not wualify as 'Neo-Socialist') I have to say that Lenin talked utter wank. No where does Marx talk about a Vanguard leading the working class, nor does he reommend censorship, nor a secret police- Lenin hisself understood that he'd simply rebuilt the tsarist state.

It is a development of Marx comrade. It is a recognition that the socialist revolution needs action. Laissez faire socialism does not com about, it is defeated by inequality. Your organisation has fed upon the death of crypto-communist countries but now sits back and waits.

: The logic of power is that your first duty is to maintain power, at all costs, and thus behave in a repressive manner (remember krondstadt!).

You find the use of power over the sick capitalist animals to be wrong? Are you a socialist? Krondstadt is an aberation, it is capitalism rearing its vile head and creating change. That is no to be blamed upon Scientific Socialism.

: Our alternative is the alternative understtod by Marx, we work to raise the consciousness of the working class as a whole, 90% of the population, and then we have our revolution. no need for ensorship when you have a majority, no need for secret police nor repression.

But it is sinking not raising. You recall "false consiousness" from your studies yes? It pushes out the mass consciousness you want, we would wait for the end of the earth!

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