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1 type of burger like the Big Mac and fries and a shake?
A. Yes.
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Q. Which is, as far as I can understand, a fairly popular
3 combination.
4 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, I do not know that this is helping
matters very much at all.
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MR. MORRIS: I think it is helping matters.
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MR. RAMPTON: Would you mind?
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MR. JUSTICE BELL: Just wait and then we will decide.
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MR. RAMPTON: It is conventional to listen to the other side
9 first. I only say that because the percentages for those
sorts of meals have been calculated by Professor Wheelock
10 and set out on the tables that he has produced. For
example, one sees that a cheeseburger provides 48.5 per
11 cent of the energy for the meal in fat and 23 per cent --
over 23 per cent is saturated fat; so as items in
12 themselves they quite clearly exceed the recommendations
for the diet at large.
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MR. JUSTICE BELL: May I make a suggestion? We have a lot of
14 raw material upon which you can comment. What I suggest
is you pick a meal, ask the witness, and then we will get
15 his answer and leave it whether he considers that is high
in fat, saturated fat and sodium. Later you can come back
16 and argue to me that will be a pretty typical thing for
someone to buy if they went into McDonald's. Take, for
17 instance, a cheeseburger, fries and milk shake, something
of that kind.
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MS. STEEL: A typical meal of cheeseburger, fries and milk
19 shake, would you agree that that was going to be high in
fat, saturated fat and sodium?
20 A. I am pretty sure it would be if I was to do the
calculations. You know, we would end up with a fat
21 content which is higher than 35, a saturated fat content
which is higher than ten; yes, I do not think there is any
22 question or any argument about that.
23 Q. Would you agree that a meal of that description, that
particular example given, would be likely to be quite high
24 in sugar and low in fibre?
A. Well, again you can look at the sheet yourself. On
25 the whole, as far as fibre is concerned, the concentration
of fibre in McDonald's products is much in line with the
26 concentration of fibre in a range of other products.
27 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I think we have reached a stage where we
have had so much information that you really ought to be
28 able to just say "yes" or "no" to something like that.
Then if there is an argument about it, not now, but at
29 some future date we can go back to the actual figures and
compare. Would you describe the meal which we put there
30 as high in sodium content, for instance?
