Day 145 - 29 Jun 95 - Page 35

     
     1   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do not bother -----
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     3   MS. STEEL:  If anyone wants to check, it is on the form.
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     5   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  We can check if need be.  What we are
     6        concerned with now is whether Mr. Stein can help on the
     7        fact.
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     9   MR. MORRIS:  We are going to go through lots of outstanding bits
    10        and pieces.
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    12   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  If I may make a suggestion?  If Mr. Morris
    13        just indicates what broad topic we are on as you come to
    14        each fresh one.  No-one will hold it against you if you are
    15        short in your answer.  You need not give any explanation.
    16        Mr. Morris will ask you another question if he wants more
    17        information and, hopefully, before the end of this
    18        afternoon Mr. Rampton will have the opportunity to
    19        re-examine you anyway.
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    MR. MORRIS:  If Mr. Rampton gives an indication of how long he
    22        wants, we will make sure we finish by that time.
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    24   MR. RAMPTON:  It should not really depend on that actually. It
    25        should depend on the natural line of the cross-examination.
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    27   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  The suggestion was made with goodwill.
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    29   MR. RAMPTON:  At the moment after seven and a half days, or
    30        whatever it is, of cross-examination, I have one question.
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    32   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Allow Mr. Rampton about a quarter of an hour
    33        just in case.
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    35   MS. STEEL:   Sorry, there was just one thing I wanted to ask
    36        about OCLs:  In the UK it says that after a reasonable
    37        length of time, i.e. two days for fillet and pies and three
    38        days for french fries, a management person must do an
    39        observation check list on the crew member.  Would that be
    40        similar in the USA?
         A.  The short answer is I do not recall anything that
    42        specific in the US, but it has been a number of years since
    43        I managed a store.  I would only be guessing to give you an
    44        answer, so I do not feel competent to give you an answer.
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    46   Q.   Do you think that is a likely length of time?
    47        A.  Excuse me?
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    49   Q.   Do you think that, obviously, it might be a bit
    50        difficult  ----- 
    51        A.  My Lord, I do not mean to give a long answer, but they 
    52        use a different term than what we do in the US.  I do not 
    53        know what their procedure is here in England.  You are
    54        asking me to give you an answer to something that I really
    55        do not have any knowledge of.
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    57   Q.   So you do not know how long after a crew member started
    58        working on a particular station that they would be given an
    59        OCL?
    60        A.  Not offhand -- in England here?  I would not have the