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So, are you advocating violence against them?

Posted by: MDG on December 01, 1999 at 17:36:10:

In Reply to: The WTO is an instrument of violence posted by Samuel Day Fassbinder on December 01, 1999 at 16:55:15:

: : Unless it's in response to immediate violence, non-violence is the only viable tactic for demonstrations. Do you know what happens when demonstrators turn violent? 1) They get their asses kicked by superior police forces, and worse, 2) They lose the support of mainstream society, and rightfully so.

: SDF: Demonstrators "turn violent"? We keep forgetting one of the main weapons of the Establishment, that is to say, AGENT PROVOCATEURS.

: Meanwhile, THIS isn't violence? It's what the WTO protects!

Agents Provacteurs are always a possibility, but so are sincere protesters who turn violent, plus the usual gang of apolitical thugs who use any excuse for violence.

I know the damned WTO is a weapon, but a meeting of WTO reps, all sitting in a room and talking, does not have the immediate violence of police beating union organizers, or protesters breaking McDonald's windows, and like it or not, people react to immediate violence first, and only consider the indirect violence of sedate corporate meetings in the absence of anything more fiery.

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