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So state capitalist that evreything was state owned?

Posted by: Ludwig von Mises ( USA ) on May 22, 1999 at 23:28:40:

In Reply to: Wee Correction. posted by Red Deathy on May 22, 1999 at 15:57:37:

: : Oh, yeah, I forgot that Lenin, who has a communist philosophy named after him, was a capitalist.

: Doesn't matterwhat Lenin was, Russia was a State Capitalist system- actually, in 1921 Lenin said Capitalism would be a step forwards for Russia. The Bolsheviks may have called themselves a communist party (They never called Russia anything other than Socialist actually, and that was wrong), but teh system they presided ovr was state capitalist.

So state capitalist that evreything was state owned? If an individual owns nothing, and if the system is in place as a result of a one party law, and if people have no freedom(unless they're party members), then it is a communist party state. If the state has absolute power, then it is not capitalism, that would be impossible.

I think that Lenin made that statement as a political move, much like his statement 'imperialism is the purest form of capitalism', which it certainly is not.

: : No, the US hasn't been laissez-faire in any regard in this century.

: Hmmm turn of the century it was, and it tends towards being as Laissez faire as you can sensibly get, though the American economy did bare startling resemblances to the USSR's. More Similar than you'd think.

The US as free as it can sensibly be? I thought that you belived in limited power of the state. The reason that the USSR had a similar economy to the US's is that they had aproximately the same population, the same size military, and they were in the same position, as they were both the superpowers.

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