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Lip service from the right wing--what else is new

Posted by: Ted ( T R U, Madison, WI, USA ) on September 07, 1997 at 13:26:10:

In Reply to: The high and mighty socialist.... posted by Kevin on September 06, 1997 at 18:37:21:

: Ya ya ya....this was not the point of my statement...I suppose my sarcasm was not picked up by the touchy feely idealist and erudition of our noble socialist humanitarian.....I am saddened that your response is nothing but another banter from the platform of 'I knew you would say that'....

I'm a touchy-feely noble socialist humanitarian? I knew you would say
that.

: Perhaps I should be clearer...

Yes, you should. You can start by learning the basics of punctuation.
It also wouldn't hurt to learn how to form sentences into a coherent
line of thought.

:...your notion of common sense...I am waiting for this penetrating insight...

Well, wait no longer. It's common sense to suppose that people want
decent food, clothing, shelter, and medical care. It's common sense
to believe that if they don't have the opportunity to obtain those
things, they're going to get a bit unruly. It's common sense to think
that lectures on the beauty of the free market and trickle-down economics aren't going to mean a lot to someone who's just been a victim of "downsizing" and has a family to feed. It's common sense to
refrain from chastising people on welfare, because the whims of your
employer could put you in the same position at any time. If any of
these insights don't penetrate you, then you're a good candidate for
a job in conservative journalism. There's very little common sense
there.

:... you only have to rely on deep seeded emotion and a gut feeling that tells yourself that you are an open minded objective philanthropist.....b.s.

No I don't. Other people tell me I am. However, I do have a gut feeling that tells me you're a closed-minded, greedy Republican-type.

: Perhaps some education is in order.....When one speaks of capitalism and its merits, you all jump on the populist, corporation is evil, look at what happens when I turn on my television and watch all the commericials banter.......this in and of itself does not speak of pure capitalism just as you would say the soviet union represented communism...so get the facts straight...

Well, Forbes magazine says this is a capitalist country, and they
should know. On the other hand, the CEO of Archer Daniels Midland says
we're socialist (because of government subsidies to corporations). So
you see how difficult you money-lovin' folks are making this for me.

:. It is so disheartening to watch you write about how if you do not climb the corporate ladder that you are a cynic.....what a croc...

You mean "Kroc", as in Ray. But that's not what I said. I was
referring to your constant use of the word "cynical" to describe those
of us who have lives which are not based on amassing wealth.

: Nobody is saying that there is no inequality that results in this, or any other scenario that you would like to discuss....the point is that the incentive provided by capitalims often does elevate the human spirit....and it is not all just about money...

Gee, capitalism sure is wonderful. Who could have imagined a system
that elevates your spirit while simultaneously allowing you to own
multiple houses and cars while less fortunate people starve. You're
right; it's not just about money. It's about power and alienation too.

:..The mass majority of the money is held by a very small percentage of the population....most people are not rich....those that work, don't all work because they have to or are being oppressed...alot of us actually like what we do, are excited, see potential in working with a team and motivating an organization to achieve results...

Keep those hackneyed sports analogies coming, coach. It's nice to know
your work is a balm for your soul, but most of us aren't so lucky. Of
course the majority of the wealth is held by a small percentage of the
population. What do you think we're referring to when we speak of
inequity?

:...'on the backs of others you would say'.....my ass. If you want the right to say what you want to say and live in a democracy that respect your ability and individualism, then you are bound by capitalism...

Bound and gagged by it, actually. The notion of freedom of expression
being tied to economic exploitation is not a new one. It's a joke
that's been told many times. Trouble is, too many people take it
seriously.

:...I agree that the inequalities must be adeqautely addressed, yet not my placing the pot in the middle and passing around the cup......you sir, have your work cut out for you...

Unlike the CEOs in their plush offices, who haven't done any work in a long time. Yes, you agree that inequality must be "addressed", but
never eradicated. Lip service from the right wing--what else is new.
When anyone else actually "addresses" problems with capitalism, as
we're doing on this site, you react with outrage.

We're not fooled.


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